Rejuvenated by...

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Welcome to the puzzler season three. Woo hoo! I am so glad. To all of our listeners that you are here with us today. And I welcome in our makeshift basement recording studio. The puzzles themselves. Who are Tracy? Hello, Sue. Hello. Well, hello. And Catherine. Hello there. And we have some really meaningful. And I actually think fun new season lined up for you.

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And as we are diving into something that touches all of us, which is rejuvenation or better, the question what? We are rejuvenated by. So life moves fast, and it can be so easy to get caught up in the constant push to do more, achieve more, and keep going by. What about the moments that restore us? The little rituals, the unexpected joys, the guilty pleasures, the small connections that help us recharge and feel like ourselves again?

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So today I will be asking the puzzlers some playful and personal questions about what rejuvenation means to them. Well, that was, as you could tell, unplanned. But it actually is a good intro, to our episode rejuvenation, because laughter is part of this. So, I think we have us. And, in this intro is just to tell you a bit about the puzzlers.

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And their stories, and it hopefully will encourage us to pause and contemplate what helps us to rejuvenate our mind, body and soul. So all right, let's just jump in and start with a simple definition so we can ensure all of us talk about the same thing. Because the concept of rejuvenated by is very close to refresh. Bye.

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However, I believe there is a subtle difference, but at least that's what I think. But English is not my first language. So I want to know your take on it. What is the difference for you between rejuvenated by and refreshed by? Is there a difference and if so, where is it? Well, I guess I can start out I because I love this question.

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It's like one of my favorite questions that I've pondered in the last little while. I kind of thought is, visual, or like an image. Refresh to me is like, dried apple ring. And when you put it in water and it reconstitute. So it's, it's basically brought back to a place that it was supposed to be kind of healing.

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And then rejuvenation is more like an apple that maybe has like it's a full, intact apple, but it has, some sprays on it and some dirt on it. And then you take a cloth and you like, rub it and you shine it all up. It's like a new outlook, a new spring in your step. It has this element of excitement and hope to it.

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So to me, that's sort of a picture of the difference in my mind. I, I love that I'm totally tracking with that. Okay. Because that's almost I just put it in different words. I didn't see the picture. I love that you gave a picture. I mean, that's it's brilliant. Where I went with thank you in the same sort of idea is that I sort of consider these words as measurements.

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Like our souls energy and when our soul is operating in the red. Kind of like your shriveled apple ring. When we're tired or spent or weary or stressed or shriveled, or otherwise depleted in some way. Refreshment being means like having enough energy returned to us that we sort of get back to status quo.

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So refresh just brings us to status quo, where rejuvenation takes us above and beyond. I see that as being built up beyond zero, added to fed, invested in so that I'm operating in the black and as opposed to just enough. So really very, very similar just I but I love that you gave it a visual.

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Wow. Okay. So I can be brilliant too. I know you can, because here's what I had a picture, too. I hope you like mine. So I love analogies and pictures too, because I think they help us understand things. Right. So same as you. So I'm a curly hair gal, and so I thought refresh. Well, that's kind of like a refreshing spray that may just, you know, kind of liven up the curls and whatnot temporarily.

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And rejuvenation to me was like a deep conditioning treatment that penetrates into each hair shaft. So for me, refresh was quick kind of boost and some kind of revitalizing. But it's kind of short term temporary and you might need it again and again for for me, rejuvenate was like this deep renewal would last longer, stronger, and your stores are being repeated.

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That's kind of the picture I got. I love that your curly hair gal, too. I can be, yeah, and you are very clever. Oh, and I love all of those. And I love words. And I love their stories that come with the words and rejuvenation, that idea of being young again. And so when we talk about adding to us, it does.

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It enriches us. But I think it enriches us by taking us back to somewhere that is really our designed identity. And in C.S. Lewis is The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. There's a picture of Edmund as a dragon who's under all of these layers of thick skin that he just can't take off, and he surrenders himself and Aslan, the lion takes a claw and just like, peels back all the layers and there's this fresh living being at the center of it that gets tossed into refreshing waters.

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And so that's a lot of it that I see. And I just I loved this one. Thought it came across. It says rejuvenation is the intricate dance between healing and growth, where one sheds the burdens of weariness and embraces a new found radiance. So that taking off of all of the stuff, I was being super technical because I thought rest are like refreshment was like like a little bit and rejuvenation was like a lot more.

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And then restoration was like what you're talking about. So I was holding back on that whole. But I agree like that. I also liked when I looked up refresh part of refresh it's back backstory is about providing shelter and refreshment. Right? So like you like refresh statements if you're running a marathon or something. Those refreshment stations. Yes, that idea is a picture when you're running the marathon.

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Refreshing. Is that, you know, long drink to keep running. Yeah. I mean, that's that's why I love hanging out with you guys. You know, like, I love the intentionality because you're all weird people. And, how focused you are and describing something and to get to the deeper meaning of it, because I think even in our word choices, a can be a refreshment because it brings something to mind that just goes deeper.

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And I think intentionality of how you want to show up, how we want to approach something, if it's just a more, it's the surface level. So I understand you guys all correctly, like so refreshing is for like more a temporary like an immediate relief of things. And then the rejuvenation just goes deeper into the fiber of our beings.

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And I, I think if we have a choice or how do we live our lives, what do we do to look after ourselves in a in a sense. And, our God given body, mind and soul, like, what do we choose to do? So I, I love little games. The, the last time I asked you guys if you had a magic wand, what would you do?

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This time it's a button. I call it a recharge button. And the recharge is, I think, overarching. You can pick your poison out. You want to be refreshed of able to be rejuvenated or possibly restored. So. But what I would love to do is if you could push that button, whatever that button is, you define it, what would be the first thing you would do?

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I'm so excited. I'm all over these, I love it. I love your place. I love it here. That's right. As soon as you gave it to us, I'm like, yes, magic wand. Right. So I would say here's, here's I would press the button. It would take me to a beautiful island. I would be full of energy and clarity and focus.

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And now I have not only the energy, but focus and clarity to do one thing endlessly. Does anybody know what it would be? Dance. Oh that's five. No, I want to keep. Right, right. Yes. Chloe writing my books, book after book, pouring out in the oasis of unending energy. That's what I'm with you. Thank you for the button.

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I wish I you were so productive with your choice. I. I love that because I was not I was decidedly not productive. But for me, it really depends on the season. In summer I would go paddleboarding. Because for me, well first of all I'm definitely a water baby. And, but there's something about, you know, paddling way out and then floating on the water being above water.

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And I have had so many moments where I look back at shore and I can watch people playing and interacting. I can see dogs running in the water, all that sort of thing. They're enjoying themselves. I can hear them and I can hear their enjoyment. But I'm alone and I'm I'm an extrovert, like, I love being with people.

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But if I want to really rejuvenate and recharge, I tend to go off on my own. But I love watching people enjoy themselves. That gives me great pleasure. And I also really love that, with being on top of the water, I've always been fascinated that there's a whole life under the water. There's a whole world down there, and the deeper the water is, the better.

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But where I paddleboard a good deal of the time, I can see right to the bottom, so you can see fish going through and, it's I, I just love that, like the breezes and the sunshine and everything. Winter. I'm not outside. I. I light candles, and I, I like painting, drawing. I'm a little bit productive, but it doesn't have to be anything special.

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Just color. I like plain color. You're an introverted extrovert. Like we can be like and be virts right. Yes yes yes. So yeah me too. But I can also recharge with people. That's a whole. It is. That's helpful. Yeah. And next I like it like I'm thinking about Catherine's comments and how you would press your refresh button.

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But you would first be in at this beautiful island and you would have all this amazing energy, your first refreshed and then you're, you're rejuvenated. And it's it's interesting. I know I'm not early answering the question yet, but I think of our vacations and I think of my husband, whose job is really stressful and he seems to like for the first half of the vacation, he's taking lots of naps and sleeping a lot, but by the end he has all these, like, I'm going to start this, you know, workout regime or whatever, you know, like I feel like often rejuvenation comes after we're refreshed.

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So that's just an interesting thought for us to play around with for this season. Yeah. And so for me, my, my thought, my first thought was, well, if I press the refresh button, I'd have people over for dinner. Like, it's very simple, but you have to clean your house, you have to make that dinner, and you need a certain type of refreshment, type of energy to be able to put all of that into place.

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It's not that I never have people over for dinner, but I just think it just takes a certain type of refreshment to be able to plan that. And that's what I'd like to do. Oh, very simple, very slowly. Well it'll come let let's hope you're pressing a button. Soon we can come over to things. Well, I love that there's both, because when you first put the question of the recharge button, actually, what I saw, it actually literally saw in a park beside us was one of those huge bouncy castles.

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Like, I loved bouncy castles. I did trampoline when I was young and things like that. That was the first piece. Then in discussing I thought, how do we rejuvenate in our day to day? What is our wiring? What are those places? And it's interesting because rejuvenated brings me adventure and activity and community. I think in the daily ritual kind of space because, high sensory, it's often starting my day.

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And, you know, we all know me time, but I call it we time. And it's as simple as quiet coffee and time with Jesus. And it's, you know, it may have music, it may not. Everything can kind of change from there. But it's that rejuvenation on a day to day basis. Even this morning, I didn't start my day with that because of what the day was.

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And I was like, I got to stop and recenter and come into that place. But it's other things too. It is that laughter with friends that we had earlier, but it's diving in and going completely away with a great book like rejuvenation has a especially like a cozy mystery. I love reading anything but something like a cozy mystery where you know it's all going to work out at the end, right?

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Those are rejuvenating places and awesome. So. So was there like a recent moment where you, felt truly re-energized? And I see a nod to my right, which is Catherine. Long drive looking at leaves. Quiet, calm, sitting, being, seeing, sensing, resting still and quiet in my mind and heart and body just receiving. And I and I actually am super conflicted because on the other hand, I feel totally rejuvenated and planning for this podcast and even leaning into how we would prepare to be together to start.

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And so totally different, but present and alive in different ways. And teaser. I might be talking about some of that in my episode.

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But I think what you were just saying, in, in your drive you were receiving. And in facilitating and she, you by the way, did a beautiful job. I'm sorry all the listeners couldn't be part of that. Yeah. How she kind of set the mood and, and the energy for us to get it into this podcast episode.

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But in that you were using your God given gifts, right? It's like what you were saying to to a of a Tracy said about identity to, to use theirs who you are and that gives you, gives you joy and rejuvenation. So yeah, that also ties into what Val said. I'm thinking that's a real piece that once we refresh, yes, we are able to we give from that place, you know.

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Yeah, like I dominated. Yeah. I'd almost like to pick that apart. You went on that drive. They weren't connected. They were very separate. But but the drive itself. So you're driving and it just made you feel refreshed. But it also like. Did you what were your thoughts like? Were you having thoughts of like, I'm going to I'm excited to do this and that, or you were just enjoying nature around you, resting and being still and sensing and seeing.

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It was very like peace. You're stealing from my podcast. But that was peace. And then I would say in this preparing for this, where it was like fully alive, like being everything that grumpy that was joy. Right. So, so for me rejuvenation has to do with peace and joy. And I don't want to talk more about my podcast.

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Okay. I love that because it's so important to remember that what rejuvenates us is different by individuals. But I'm not going to be on a paddleboard. I don't like water that much. But not just different people but different seasons and different times. And we're not just rejuvenated as an a one off. Like you said, we're rejuvenated by peace.

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We're rejuvenated by joy, rejuvenated by friendship. There's all like you could fill it in with all kinds of like listener. Just think for yourself. Rejuvenated by and fill in the blank. What's the first thought that comes to your mind? There's not a right or wrong answer to what we are rejuvenated by, and our podcast episodes are only going to touch the very tip of the surface.

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Yeah, so. Well, and I think it can change. I mean, in answer to your your first question, that was very direct. I talked about paddle boarding and these kind of solo things. But the most recent moment when I felt totally rejuvenated when I read, you know, when when you say that to me, I've talked before about Guatemala, but I go straight to Guatemala and I'm in the back of a pickup truck with two very close girlfriends of mine.

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And and John is there, too, but he wasn't in the back, I have to say. But we were in the back of the pickup truck coming down the mountain at the end of a day of of installing stoves and playing with kids and a lot of muck and mud and, but connecting with local people and just looking at each other so often during the day in disbelief that we got to do this thing together, experience people and and giving and receiving, oh my word, the amount that you receive and just being able to experience the give and take of love that way in a place that is foreign but feels like home, it's it's

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it's life beyond comfort and beauty beyond the the readymade tchotchkes that we have around us. And anyhow, it's full satisfaction. Contentment. Yeah. Emptied out and filled up. Yeah. You know, ready to flop and ready for more. So. And I think we need different things at different times, like, as well as us being different people who we need different things, but we also need different things at different times.

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And even though this week was really, really busy and I was really tired, it it was still very like a livening to do that wasn't like it was draining. Right. And so, so yeah, I feel like rejuvenation often has that enlivening, flavor to it, like, hope and and it often I feel like rejuvenation lifts our eyes to connections with the outside world.

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Like we want to connect with others or make a difference, or because we have this bit of a surge of excitement and. Yeah. I mean, for me, just a very simple like sometimes when I'm laying on in my bed on a weekend or I don't have to work that day and I just have the whole day ahead of me with no plans, I'll feel the surge of rejuvenation like the world is my oyster, you know?

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So even, I feel refreshed. I had a good sleep and I don't have a lot ahead of me. And so there's a lot of possibility in that. So do you have a default in, like, because you said all the possibilities are ahead of you? I would like do you usually go to one thing that you're more drawn to than others?

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Yeah, I guess I do. And what maybe the possibilities seem more exciting when I'm laying in bed, because then when I, I actually rather, But but I feel in that moment all the possibilities of the day. But yeah, when once you get up and you start the day. Yeah, it it tends to go, but maybe not.

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Maybe that day I decided, you know what? I'm going for this long hike today or. Yeah. Yeah. I had a really unique, reminder of rejuvenation identity right before you ask this question. And I had a weekend where, you know, I just gave ourselves it was a long. We can give myself permission to just not do all of the things.

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And it was already getting later into the evening, but I fell down a genealogy rabbit hole like I just I tumbled full head down. And I do that. I don't often give myself time for that. And I you don't feel like that's like to give yourself time. Is this needed and all those kind of things. But it is like a good workout for my brain.

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Like I'm not an analytical genealogist. I'm a story based genealogist. So even as I'm thinking I've got mind maps, like my brain works hard tracing that, but it's like it, tires it out in a really positive way, too. And then the imagination, like, that's been really opening up in my heart again in this year that has really been about rejuvenation and even just the lives we've lived in, the stories that we're a part of and the stories that have gone before.

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So it was a really distinct I got out of that and it was like, I think it was like two in the morning or something before I finally made myself leave the computer. But I went, I just feel so alive. So that was a good reminder for me to those things that we just love, that we sometimes push aside.

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Yeah, yeah, that is fun. And I'm even still thinking about your question, because if I'm laying in bed, I could possibly make better choices if I'm have that sense of rejuvenation to not just enter into my kitchen from the kitchen. Yeah, cleaning the kitchen. Like maybe at that moment when I have that sense I can choose something exciting or something wonderful, I love that, yeah, I love that for you.

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I just remembered something to actually ladies, when I was in this car and looking at the leaves, I was actually sending you pictures. You were just going to say, I remember the pictures. I was connecting with you guys. You were connecting? Yeah. Yeah. And I was connecting with God for sure, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think as well, that these moments don't have to be long moments.

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Like for me, it was, like my husband and I went to, to the eastern provinces this summer, and we were at Peggy's Cove in Nova Scotia. And just to maybe we were there for 15, 20 minutes, sitting on the rocks looking at, the Atlantic Ocean. And I'm like, so I'm a water person for me, like beach being by the water, there's something very calming, something very refreshing for me.

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I walked away from that place and I noticed in my body like it was something I'm kind of wow, like I feel I feel refreshed and and it just shocked me because I thought I wasn't even a day on the beach, you know? And and it was we weren't even on the beach. We were like these, these big rocks.

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And there was a wind and you were just overlooking the ocean. But there was something about it that just touched me, and I could feel it physically in my body. And I think we're, we're so intertwined, like body, mind and soul. That what refreshes maybe our mind and our soul actually manifest itself in our body. And very same vice versa.

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Thing was the same as stress, right? Like it? You can feel it in your body. Well, even those rocks, they're very grounding. Yeah. That's true. Right? Yeah. And even thinking of the word elemental, like those rocks, the waves. And that's really what, rejuvenation is about, right? Those elemental pieces of who we are. Right. Like things get stripped away.

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Right. You've got those beautiful bare rocks, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was beautiful. Yes. Grounding. Yeah. So Sabbath moment right I like is. Yeah I always think Sabbath is like this one all day. But it's these moments of rejuvenation and. Right. Yeah. And life is the sum total of our moments. So yeah. And I think as well to slow down and actually recognize these moments.

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That's and that's where I go back to the intentionality of I had like RV I be able to recognizing the little gems said life gives us and and they might come in very small packages. But they're still like blessings or puzzle pieces and meant to be unwrapped and like, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And opened and enjoy it and remember it really put it in our little scrapbook.

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Yeah. And cherished and cherished. Yeah. So talking about scrapbook, we so is there because in in scrapbooks we remember places and and things. So I just wonder if there is a destination. So every a rejuvenation would be a destination. Where would you be magic. One that was really clear for me, actually. And all I have to do is say, think England.

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Because what came to mind was really three fold. And the first piece of it, I think Cambridge, Oxford, those old libraries. Yeah. The architecture, the books, the history, the thoughts. Like I'm giving myself more permission to sit with no surprise, surprise. I like deep thoughts. Right? But I get so surface on so many things. But sitting and being there, so that place.

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But if you think about the inklings, the community that coming together at a pub afterward, exchanging ideas much like the puzzlers, right. Those kind of places. And then again, England does wild open wars and just walking and processing thought. So yeah, I think England, it was a very specific that's just on my my magic wand list as well too.

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So I, I'm curious which you bring a person with you to that destination or of which you rather enjoyed by yourself. I think it's three fold. I think it could be either this place is probably the walking. I'd be solo. The library I see like libraries, but I can see that in the same way you can, read a good book in a room with a friend, like a companionable silence, so that because there are people in those libraries, that's kind of thing.

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But you're also and you're actually kind of surrounded by people because those lives are in those books, too. So it's not an isolated place. It's very much being present with a Lewis or a Dickens or a whoever, whoever you want to name and pull down off those shelves. It's the possibilities that are there. You're amazing. You are present with these.

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So with these authors have a kind of but but the together is definitely the pub feeling, right? Right. It's those two parts of my heart where it's both, like you said and B for the introverted, extrovert, extroverted introverts, we all need both at different times and in different ways. So yeah, without the conversations then the other just becomes really academic and flat.

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I think it's design. I think deep thoughts are designed to be dialog around. Yeah, explored. But give me a low note on the Hills because that's. Yeah, Wuthering Heights. Give me that. So ladies, guess what I did with the magic wand? What destination do you think I got? It was probably an island. Nope. This time it's my barn.

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Oh, a barn by the woods with a stream and farmland and animals in the surrounding area. And in the barn, there's twinkly lights and flowers and people laughing. And there's a large group of women gathered to grow and heal and become and be loved. And they're connecting and relating. There you go. That's mine. Yeah. Well yours has alone and others as well.

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You can go out into the pasture, in the stream mine to has as I'm looking at it, we're talking about that I chose Myrtle Beach because I love it and it has so many memories for me. I'm also a water person. So there's three of us. Possibly more. I love the ocean. So I find that very refreshing, very rejuvenating.

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But then we typically go with friends and family. And so and also, there's a lot of crowds there. And I actually really find crowds rejuvenating. I love being with large groups of strangers all, amidst a crowd headed towards one place or. Yeah. So for me, I like the balance Myrtle Beach holds of quiet and natural, but also, a lot of things to do and a lot of, you know, energy.

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Yeah. I feel like a bit of a broken record, I would, I if I, if I had a plane I could get on, I would go to Guatemala. But if we're talking local, or something more simple, I would, I would choose a beach any day. I there is something about staring out, preferably where I can't see the other side of the water like I.

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A stream will do it for me too, because I do love the sound of a babbling brook and you know that sort of imagery. But if I can look out and not see the other shore, I find my mind and my spirit just expand. For me, it's an image of of God that that both that depth, that other life, all the things we can't see.

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But we know are there because there's evidence of them. The idea of water that returns to the shore and returns and returns and just keeps coming, it's the sound of that, but it's also the action of it. I, I love the ongoing and tied in with the rhythms. I love it, it's actually really restorative. It really is rhythm for us.

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And we're not going to go too far into that. Okay. Okay. Because it's coming, it's coming. It's my topic this year. Yeah. And I love that this season I get to, explore being rejuvenated by nature with you guys because that is why that is my heart. Yeah. So that's where I would go and that's where we will go.

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That's very interesting because each of you answered was a place. So for me my destination actually would be a feeling or a situation. It would be creating something meaningful with a team of people. So I am actually my rejuvenation are done by ideas, ideas by creativity. That's kind of. And that could be anywhere. But that's, so, so destination, maybe Sue's basement.

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This is basement. That's right. And, so. Yeah. So maybe, maybe a destination in the, How are the native English speakers here? See it as a geographical location, but I think destination can be expanded as well, as, as different things because of what God has wired inside of us. And like the rejuvenation, going back to identity and and who we are.

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So I just want to leave our listeners with that thought of where would you go and what would be your destination? And, and how can you get there? And then just asking God, like, give me, give me opportunities or maybe they're there and, but you're not taking them or taking the time to, to really explore that and, take the time to be rejuvenated by what actually is meaningful to you.

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And, I just wonder if, for example, Myrtle Beach is a connection to your episode? Well, like, or, you know, or, Guatemala or, you know, like all the England oops. Where, oh, like the topic you guys chose? So the way we do it, we come up with a theme and then everyone chooses, where they would like to narrow in and everyone kind of picks their own topic.

00;34;12;04 - 00;34;36;17

And so it would be interesting to see if there is a connection. What do you personally feel rejuvenated by the destination you chose? And the topic you decided to focus on. So why don't we start with you? Well, because I mentioned Myrtle Beach. Is there a connection or. It's, maybe not. That's a pretty good question to call.

00;34;36;19 - 00;35;03;19

I think it does relate for me. My topic this season is going to be New Adventures, and I'm pretty excited about it. I think that my particular new adventure includes a few similarities to Myrtle Beach and includes water. It includes crowds. I'm not going to tell you guys too much, but, yeah, I I'm going to be talking about rejuvenated by new Adventures.

00;35;03;19 - 00;35;33;28

So awesome new road trip. Well, I definitely can because of those three. Because beyond long walks and worlds of nature, my which are definitely rejuvenating for me. My theme is rejuvenated by beauty, which you find in nature, but also for me, beauty has a lot to do with gathering and consuming beautiful, rich thoughts. Maybe not what we normally think of with beauty, but we get thinking of beauty in one single kind of way and unanswered questions.

00;35;33;28 - 00;35;56;19

And like I said, conversations. So beauty with a twist, maybe, beauty made a twist and some lemon twist. Sorry, I'm just hungry. I was drinking my lemon tea. What? I think that's really cool, because I answered questions in the order that they came and so when you ask the question of does this connect to our episode?

00;35;56;19 - 00;36;23;19

I was like, whoa. It actually really does. So very insightful, because my idea of having the barn with the woods and the stream and the twinkly lights and people in the barn laughing and growing and connecting and relating is definitely connected to, at least for me, how I'm rejuvenated by joy. So my topic is rejuvenation, by Joy. And we're going to talk about what it is, how we get it, how we lose it, and how do we complete it.

00;36;23;21 - 00;36;45;28

And yeah, it's kind of cool that what rejuvenated me is actually the topic that I'm going to be talking about. Go figure. Right. So all right. Yeah, I too love this question as I, as I already, I let the cat out of the bag, as it were. This year I'm going to be, looking at rejuvenated by nature.

00;36;46;00 - 00;37;12;16

And I think a lot of people are rejuvenated by nature, but in different ways and at different times. So much of what we touched on today, really feeds into the topic of being rejuvenated by nature. And so that's what I'm going to be talking about next time. Yeah. So, we invite all of our listeners to tune in again for our next episode, and, Sue will be the one hosting it.

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And as she said, it will be about rejuvenated by nature. And, thank you so much for listening to the puzzlers.

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